Talk:Vorticon Mods

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I think there should be an infobox template for Keen mods. --Genius314 13:26, 23 June 2007 (GMT)

New Subcategories

I was just thinking: The number of vorticon mods that do not have Keen as protagonist is increasing. Should we make 2 new subcategories on this page like "Main character Keen" "Other main character"? --Keenfan 20:49, 26 May 2010 (GMT)

Probably not a good idea to split up the main list on this page, however it's certainly a good idea to do it with wiki categories instead. These could show up as subcategories on Category:Mods. -- Malvineous 09:14, 14 June 2010 (GMT)
I agree that we shouldn't tear up the table. But a generic phrase like 'not starring Keen' could be added in the comment column for all those mods, so that the table could be sorted. Another possibility would be an extra column named "main character" or "protagonist", subsequently adding 'Keen' or the name of the other character for all mods. If there are several mods with a certain non-keen character, the extra column might be preferable. I'm not sure if we need another category. Tulip 08:23, 19 June 2010 (GMT)
Adding an extra column with the name of the main character is a good idea, let's do that. Wiki categories are fairly cheap, so don't be afraid of adding in new ones (just make sure the new categories are themselves categorised so that we can find them again!) -- Malvineous 10:22, 19 June 2010 (GMT)

Unfinished Mods

There are quite a number of unfinished and abandoned beta mods in this list of mods. I suppose a category unfinished mods would help to make thing a bit tidier. All unfinished mods would be moved there, so you can see whats finished and what's in work (or abandoned) in one click. What do you guys think? Tulip 12:39, 27 January 2009 (GMT)

Yeah that sounds fine - probably good to have the unfinished/abandoned heading listed under each engine (so Keen 1 unfinished, Keen 2 unfinished, etc.) -- Malvineous 08:17, 31 January 2009 (GMT)

I am all for separating the unfinished and abandoned mods from the complete mods. --Syllypryde 23:17, 31 January 2009 (GMT)

Now that there is a sortable table, anyone who wants to "remove" those mods from the list can simply choose the appropriate sorting settings. For the record, I don't really lean either way about removing from this page those mods that haven't been released at all. But I am against removing "unfinished" mods that have actually been released in some form - simply because some of those are better than "finished" ones. Snortimer 07:29, 24 August 2009 (GMT)


I think this page would look nicer if the content was organised in a table rather than just a list. With columns for title, author and release date/year (if available). What do you think? --Grandy02 15:50, 30 July 2009 (GMT)

Good Point --DHeadshot 18:31, 30 July 2009 (GMT)
Agrees --Shikadi 22:15, 30 July 2009 (GMT)
Okay, as requested. I made it sortable like the List of fan-games. I also added some more mods from Beyond the Pogo that seemed to have been missed. However, I think we need to make another separate page for levelpacks. Snortimer 07:16, 24 August 2009 (GMT)

Missing Download links

Some of the mods don't have any download link, if someone has these mods, I'd be happy to upload them somewhere. The mods in question are the ones that have an empty download box in the table, not the ones with 'n/a', I know those haven't been released yet. Also Comrade Keen, and The Lord of the Rings have a broken link. Tulip 21:01, 17 September 2009 (GMT)

If you're interested in cleaning this up a bit I'd be happy to give you an FTP account on to upload all the mods, so they can be kept in the same place as the wiki itself. -- Malvineous 22:42, 20 September 2009 (GMT)
Sounds good, I always fear some of these links might disappear one day or the other. If you need my contact address it's in the PCKF profile. Tulip 14:13, 21 September 2009 (GMT)
Done, you now have FTP access (see my e-mail) and I've also granted you sysop access to the wiki in case you need it. Good luck! -- Malvineous 11:02, 25 September 2009 (GMT)

Can't help but notice my Keen3 level pack is missing. Intentional or not? MrBlack 18:51, 21 February 2011 (GMT)

When did you add it to the page? ;-) -- Malvineous 22:16, 21 February 2011 (GMT)
Don't worry, Mr. Black, many levelpacks are missing, but I'll add yours right away when I can get online from my home again, in about 2 weeks. Tulip 11:55, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

I already sent "Mars Kingdoms" to Tulip. Besides that one, I also have the abandoned mods "Keen Redemption" (sequel to Allstories's The Last Moon) and Najawa's "Lord of the Rings" mod. Then there is also a level pack by bp. Please tell if you want me to send them to you as well. --Grandy02 18:12, 14 November 2011 (GMT)

I've stumbled upon this topic, "Bloogs First Mod". Apparently it was a Keen 1 mod called "The Revenge Of Koop 1: Return to Mars". However, the file hosting website (Hotfile) linked there has been shut down. Does anyone still have this mod? --Grandy02 (talk) 18:16, 10 June 2014 (GMT)

Missing features in this list's replacements

Hi there, I notice that it's proposed to replace this list by automatically-generated pages with screenshots. In principle, this is more attractive, because one is more likely to try a mod if one sees a screenshot of it. However, I am wondering if there's any way to add a few things that are available in this list, but not in the new ones:

  • A way to sort by author name
  • A way to sort by # of levels
  • Links to forum discussion threads (if available)

All of this is in the infoboxes on the dedicated mod pages, so I assume it should be possible, just like authorship and # of levels are listed. In addition, it would be cool if the following info was also included in the new lists:

  • New graphics?
  • New sounds?
  • New music?

This could also be culled from the infoboxes, and would make it possible to see which mods use music, for example. Also, if a "protagonist" entry were added to the infoboxes, that could also be displayed. Snortimer (talk) 11:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

It would be nice to do all this, but unfortunately the wiki isn't designed as a database so it puts a bit of a strain on the page to have all this information displayed. I need to limit what gets displayed in each box on the list pages, otherwise the page takes too long to generate. Likewise new sort orders involve the creation and maintenance of a bunch of new pages and categories, so really, it's not an ideal way to list all the mods. In some ways it would be better to have a separate website that harvests the information from the wiki and uses that to display the mod list in rich detail, as it would eliminate the intensive computation required to generate lists within the wiki. I've been toying with the idea of using the Semantic MediaWiki extension instead, but haven't yet figured out how it could work for this situation. But if it could work, I believe it could do everything you suggest. -- Malvineous (talk) 11:37, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Download link to A.A's 1st Levelpack seems wrong

I clicked at the download link to A.A's 1st Levelpack, and it just leads me to Airefresco's Keen 1 Levelpack. I don't think that's right, especially since the Vorticon Mods page stated the wrong number of levels. Quinton (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

It seems like the is an updated version of that file, cause it contains an additional 11th level. can you plz confirm that all other levels do look and feel the same?! if so we'll need to change some information.
-- Nisaba (talk) 19:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
The 11th level seems to be inaccessible and when I viewed it with VorticonView, there is just infoplanes all over. All of the other levels appear to be the same. Quinton (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
aha! level 11 is actually a Keen 2 level! --> LEVEL11.CK2
and looking at the meta-data it seems to be a copy of that level which that file provides. plz check if these levels are identical.
-- Nisaba (talk) 19:14, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I checked out both levels, and they appear to be the same. I think A.A's 1st Levelpack should be removed from the wiki, since it has pretty much nothing besides the levels that are found elsewhere. Quinton (talk) 19:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Go for it. -- Nisaba (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I removed it. I think the levelpack should also be removed from the wiki's server (which, I think only admins can manage it). Quinton (talk) 19:58, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm gonna take care of it. --Nisaba (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Dark Side of Mars seems to use existing levels

I checked out the Dark Side of Mars levelpack, and I would like to report that it appears to contain the levels from Aria AmirYar's Levelpack, with nothing else that is new, which makes the levelpack look like it shouldn't really be in this wiki. Quinton (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Flyingmouse's Level Pack download link is wrong

I clicked at the download link to Flyingmouse's Level Pack, and it just leads me to Flaose's Original Level Pack. The level pack appears to be in this topic, but both of the download links don't work for me. Quinton (talk) 20:24, 24 February 2017 (UTC)